Jump to content

  •  


  • Welcome to Piranha Keepers -- Register Today and Join the Community

    Welcome to Piranha Keepers -- Like most online communities you must register to view certain areas or post in our community, registering is a simple and free process that requires minimal information. Become a part of the Piranha Keepers community by signing in or creating an account today.  

    As a member, you can...
    • Start new topics and reply to others
    • Subscribe to topics and forums to get automatic updates
    • Get your own profile and make new friends
    • Customize your experience here
    • Be eligible for special members-only contests, giveaways, and vendor discounts

    Sign In  Create Account
    Guest Message by DevFuse
     

    - - - - -

    Piranha Invasion

    on monster quest

    • You cannot reply to this topic
    29 replies to this topic

    #1 FishermanCanada

      Juvie

    • Members
    • 76 posts

    • Joined: 22-September 11
    • Location: Toronto

    Posted 26 November 2011 - 06:30 PM

    it was on the history channel, it talked about piranhas in the United States. Apparently there is a population of red breast in Missouri, in the lake of the Ozarks. They have caught six piranhas in that lake in the last 3 yrs. Most were large Reds and one was some sort of serra (looked like a rhom). These are documented with pictures as proof. I was quite shocked at how these reds were surviving. In the winter they school around under ground springs. One under ground spring the temperature never goes below 57 degrees in the winter. The reds or pygo's seem to stay around these area's. Are these fish adapting to  the cooler waters?

    Posted Image


    #2 The Dude

      Serrasalmus elongatus

    • Site Moderator
    • 7,887 posts

    • Joined: 01-October 11
    • Location: springfield mo

    Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:01 PM

    6 catches in 3 years. I would lean toward fresh releases. Don't think they are surviving the winter. Saw that same program a few months ago. I didn't buy into it much. Unfortunatly the masses do.

    Posted Image
    Posted Image
    Posted Image
    Posted Image


    #3 GTR_Kevv

      Serrasalmus elongatus

    • Members
    • 2,171 posts

    • Joined: 14-September 11

    Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:03 PM

    You sure they arnt pacus :P

    Posted Image


    #4 FishermanCanada

      Juvie

    • Members
    • 76 posts

    • Joined: 22-September 11
    • Location: Toronto

    Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:19 PM

    definitely not pacu's. Someone caught a serra there too. Google it. :)

    I thought about fresh releases like you said , but they would need to be breeding them over the winter months , plus a few of those pygo's were a few years old. One pygo looked huge. Wouldn't someone catch on to someone breeding them and releasing them?

    They also did a test on 4 reds in an aquarium. They lowered the temp from 75 degrees over a 5 day period to 57.9 degrees and they huddled together. At 55 degrees they lost their equilibrium , but weren't dead. This might have merit to it.

    Edited by FishermanCanada, 26 November 2011 - 08:25 PM.

    Posted Image


    #5 The Dude

      Serrasalmus elongatus

    • Site Moderator
    • 7,887 posts

    • Joined: 01-October 11
    • Location: springfield mo

    Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:20 PM

    View PostPiranha-Freak101, on 26 November 2011 - 08:03 PM, said:

    You sure they arnt pacus :P

    Could be. The other thing if it's only large specimens being caught, there's no sign of breeding.

    Posted Image
    Posted Image
    Posted Image
    Posted Image


    #6 FishermanCanada

      Juvie

    • Members
    • 76 posts

    • Joined: 22-September 11
    • Location: Toronto

    Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:52 PM

    http://ozarksfirst.c...t?nxd_id=271326

    Posted Image


    #7 The Dude

      Serrasalmus elongatus

    • Site Moderator
    • 7,887 posts

    • Joined: 01-October 11
    • Location: springfield mo

    Posted 26 November 2011 - 09:02 PM

    Thoughts frank?

    Posted Image
    Posted Image
    Posted Image
    Posted Image


    #8 Johnny_Zanni

      Serrasalmus maculatus

    • Members
    • 850 posts

    • Joined: 13-September 11

    Posted 26 November 2011 - 10:03 PM

    They could have been released at a big size... Also when they become lethargic for a long time it's not like they come back perfectly normal. Organ failure and brain damage can occur.
    Posted Image
    Posted Image
    Posted Image

    WOLFPACK Founding Member

    #9 Smoke

      Serrasalmus Manueli

    • Members
    • 5,782 posts

    • Joined: 14-September 11
    • Location: Outworld

    Posted 26 November 2011 - 10:20 PM

    That episode was pure rubbish. Reminded me of a trailer park documentary. Those "geniuses" should be banned from documentaries, or anything remotely educational.
    Posted Image

    #10 The Dude

      Serrasalmus elongatus

    • Site Moderator
    • 7,887 posts

    • Joined: 01-October 11
    • Location: springfield mo

    Posted 26 November 2011 - 11:39 PM

    View PostSmoke, on 26 November 2011 - 10:20 PM, said:

    That episode was pure rubbish. Reminded me of a trailer park documentary. Those "geniuses" should be banned from documentaries, or anything remotely educational.

    couldn't have said it better myself

    Posted Image
    Posted Image
    Posted Image
    Posted Image


    #11 hastatus

      OPEFE

    • OPEFE Rep
    • 2,890 posts

    • Joined: 13-September 11
    • Location: Oregon

    Posted 27 November 2011 - 03:20 PM

    ^^ x 10

    Looks like Monster Quest needs more of an audience to watch their big foot shows.
    Funniest comment of 2012 from a member:
    oh you live in oregon? must make you an expert on piranhas

    Frank Magallanes Owner, Operator of www.opefe.com

    #12 new era

      Pygocentrus nattereri

    • Members
    • 243 posts

    • Joined: 27-October 11
    • Location: Minnesota

    Posted 30 November 2011 - 11:40 PM

    Interesting! Anymore update if fresh release or if they are really adapting?

    #13 hastatus

      OPEFE

    • OPEFE Rep
    • 2,890 posts

    • Joined: 13-September 11
    • Location: Oregon

    Posted 01 December 2011 - 01:23 AM

    View Postnew era, on 30 November 2011 - 11:40 PM, said:

    Interesting! Anymore update if fresh release or if they are really adapting?
    did you even read the story? There are no breeding populations of piranha there.
    Funniest comment of 2012 from a member:
    oh you live in oregon? must make you an expert on piranhas

    Frank Magallanes Owner, Operator of www.opefe.com

    #14 hastatus

      OPEFE

    • OPEFE Rep
    • 2,890 posts

    • Joined: 13-September 11
    • Location: Oregon

    Posted 01 December 2011 - 01:47 AM

    View PostFishermanCanada, on 26 November 2011 - 08:19 PM, said:

    definitely not pacu's. Someone caught a serra there too. Google it. :)

    I thought about fresh releases like you said , but they would need to be breeding them over the winter months , plus a few of those pygo's were a few years old. One pygo looked huge. Wouldn't someone catch on to someone breeding them and releasing them?

    They also did a test on 4 reds in an aquarium. They lowered the temp from 75 degrees over a 5 day period to 57.9 degrees and they huddled together. At 55 degrees they lost their equilibrium , but weren't dead. This might have merit to it.

    I remember that Serrasalmus species being caught. I also remember telling Fox news it was a pacu. Here's your "Serrasalmus ".
    http://www.foxnews.c...,287974,00.html
    Funniest comment of 2012 from a member:
    oh you live in oregon? must make you an expert on piranhas

    Frank Magallanes Owner, Operator of www.opefe.com

    #15 FishermanCanada

      Juvie

    • Members
    • 76 posts

    • Joined: 22-September 11
    • Location: Toronto

    Posted 01 December 2011 - 12:25 PM

    That's not a PACU. Here is the video of the show , exactly at 2.52 minutes, you will see the serra(rhom).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-7wEF609Y

    Edited by FishermanCanada, 01 December 2011 - 12:27 PM.

    Posted Image


    #16 hastatus

      OPEFE

    • OPEFE Rep
    • 2,890 posts

    • Joined: 13-September 11
    • Location: Oregon

    Posted 01 December 2011 - 12:47 PM

    View PostFishermanCanada, on 01 December 2011 - 12:25 PM, said:

    That's not a PACU. Here is the video of the show , exactly at 2.52 minutes, you will see the serra(rhom).


    Ok saw it. But they don't say the video is of that fish. I'll see if I can get better confirmation.
    Funniest comment of 2012 from a member:
    oh you live in oregon? must make you an expert on piranhas

    Frank Magallanes Owner, Operator of www.opefe.com

    #17 Scars

      Meat & Milk Delivery Boy

    • Members
    • 8,686 posts

    • Joined: 15-September 11
    • Location: Livin' in a van down by the river.

    User's Awards

         

    Posted 01 December 2011 - 01:01 PM

    im so scared now.
    Give that fish a water change. Fishes love water changes.
    Posted Image

    #18 hastatus

      OPEFE

    • OPEFE Rep
    • 2,890 posts

    • Joined: 13-September 11
    • Location: Oregon

    Posted 01 December 2011 - 01:10 PM

    I'm digging deeper. I checked with USGS, which collects all non-native species reports in the U. S. the only one listed is: 9/14/2011 red piranha
    Pygocentrus nattereri County: Harris (TX)
    Drainage: West Galveston Bay (12040204)   

    And I can say for certain they are correct. That's checking from 2009 to present.

    Edited by hastatus, 01 December 2011 - 01:12 PM.

    Funniest comment of 2012 from a member:
    oh you live in oregon? must make you an expert on piranhas

    Frank Magallanes Owner, Operator of www.opefe.com

    #19 hastatus

      OPEFE

    • OPEFE Rep
    • 2,890 posts

    • Joined: 13-September 11
    • Location: Oregon

    Posted 01 December 2011 - 01:16 PM

    Here is the list of Pacu: http://nas.er.usgs.g...em/default.aspx
    Funniest comment of 2012 from a member:
    oh you live in oregon? must make you an expert on piranhas

    Frank Magallanes Owner, Operator of www.opefe.com

    #20 bob351

      КГБ

    • Members
    • 5,787 posts

    • Joined: 14-September 11
    • Location: Snake Mountain

    Posted 01 December 2011 - 01:19 PM

    I would lol so hard if pacus became a problem in american yet they thought they were piranhas so they banned p's over pacus :rofl:

    Edited by bob351, 01 December 2011 - 01:19 PM.

    Posted Image





    0 user(s) are reading this topic

    0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users